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Civilization Watch


What Right Is Really At Stake?


May 03, 2012
Those signs on people's lawns, warning you that the pro-marriage Amendment One will harm children.

Of course it's a lie – in fact, it's really designed to fool careless people into thinking that the amendment is against traditional marriage. They're coopting the language of conservatives in order to trick conservatives into voting against their moral values.

But they're inadvertently tipping their hand; they're letting us see what's really at stake.

There's no need to legalize gay marriage. I have plenty of gay friends who are committed couples; some of them call themselves married, some don't, but their friends treat them as married. Anybody who doesn't like it just doesn't hang out with them.

It's just like heterosexual couples who are living together without marriage. Their friends still treat them like married couples, inviting them places together; they're a social unit. Those who strongly disapprove leave them alone.

There are no laws left standing that discriminate against gay couples. They can visit each other in the hospital. They can benefit from each other's insurance.

No, legalizing gay marriage is not about making it possible for gay people to become couples.

It's about giving the left the power to force anti-religious values on our children. Once they legalize gay marriage, it will be the bludgeon they use to make sure that it becomes illegal to teach traditional values in the schools.

Our children will be barraged with the deceptions of the left. Parents will be forbidden to remove their children from the propaganda.

Any child with any gender or sexual confusion will be pushed inexorably away from the decision to establish a traditional family. They'll be told, again and again, that any sign of effeminacy or gender confusion or same-sex attraction is an irrevocable, lifelong compulsion and they might as well shape their lives accordingly.

The left is at war with the family, and they want control of our children's education. That's what those signs on the lawns are about.

I'm not making this up – it's already happening wherever the left has complete control of education. Parents in those places are already forbidden to opt out of sexual and gender propaganda.

And with the teachers' unions absolutely under the control of the extreme left, don't kid yourselves: Legalizing gay marriage will make the false claims of the gay lobby the established religion of the American school system.

If there were even a shred of science behind the absurd claims about gender and sexuality coming from the left, there might be a case for allowing this to happen. But there is no science behind it.

In fact, the scientific evidence we have points in the opposite direction: Same-sex attraction is not a strait jacket; people's desires change over time; gay people still have choices; a reproductive dysfunction like same-sex attraction is not a death sentence for your DNA or for your desire to have a family in which children grow up with male and female parents to model appropriate gender roles.

Heterosexual pair-bonding has been at the heart of human evolution from the time we divided off from the chimps. Normalizing a dysfunction will only make ours into a society that corrodes any loyalty to it, as parents see that our laws and institutions now work against the reproductive success (not to mention happiness) of the next generation.

But your children will never hear any of that information, true as it is, because it contradicts the dogmas of the left.

Legalizing gay marriage is about driving all contrary evidence or argument out of the public discussion. That's why the gay-marriage lobby tries to stifle discussion – they have no arguments that stand up to serious investigation.

They brand their opponents' arguments as religious, and therefore illegitimate; but in fact their own arguments are just as faith-based, just as lacking in evidence, as any Bible-based argument.

So a vote for the amendment is a vote to keep alive the possibility of educating our children without having the false dogmas of the extreme left drilled into them, while contrary arguments are barred.

It's a vote to allow actual research into human sexuality to continue (or begin again), because the question will remain open.

It's a vote for freedom of religion – the only right that is in serious danger in America today.

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    You've missed the point
    May 03, 2012 | 07:10 AM

    This amendment does not legalize gay marriage. If it fails, NOTHING CHANGES AT ALL. If it passes, all sorts of problems emerge for gay couples with children (who is the guardian? who gets insurance?) but more than 3/4 of the people who would be affected ARE STRAIGHT. That is, the children of unmarried couples, unmarried women who no longer have access to domestic violence protections, seniors who stay unmarried to their new partners but need coverage. I am all for family values but this is an evil law meant to divide families, and it should be defeated.

    Charlotte Dungan
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    Incoming!
    May 03, 2012 | 10:38 AM

    Before the wave of vituperation hits... well done. Clear, compassionate, and exactly correct. I feel bad for the hate mail you'll get for this statement, but applaud your courage. It exceeds mine.

    Prufrock
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    May 03, 2012 | 01:59 PM

    "I have a lot of gay friends" is the new " I have a lot of black friends".

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    May 03, 2012 | 02:03 PM

    Gay couples can visit each other in the hospital until a homophobic family member bans them because they aren't related to the person. If Card did some research he would find this happens all the time.

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    May 03, 2012 | 02:04 PM

    Whats wrong with schools teaching children that two people of the same sex can love each other? I've spend my entire life being told that two people of opposite sex can love each other and it hasn't changed me one bit.

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    Face It Mr. Card
    May 03, 2012 | 02:08 PM

    You are a bigot and homosexuals make you uncomfortable. Sorry, the "i have gay friends" argument works about as well as it did for my racist grandfather in regard to black folks.

    This amendment is a majority kicking sand into the eyes of a minority. It's bullying under the guise of "christianity". It's disingenuous and embarrassing.

    How about MY freedom from YOUR religion? Where does that come into play? This article doesn't even make sense. Vote Against.

    SFH
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    Paranoid, Illogical, and Wrong
    May 03, 2012 | 02:17 PM

    Paranoid, illogical, and wrong.

    Also please cite the scientific research you allude to in your post.

    AntiScottCard
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    May 03, 2012 | 03:13 PM

    This is nothing but hysterical fear-mongering on the part of Mr. Card. He should be ashamed of himself.

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    May 03, 2012 | 03:24 PM

    I fail to see your logic that restricting marriage to how it is defined by your religion is a vote for freedom of religion. Also, I'm glad that my friends view my relationship as good as a marriage, I just wish my employer felt the same way so that I could provide affordable decent health insurance for my self employed domestic partner. Once this stifling amendment passes there will be no chance of that ever happening. There are so many things to say and not enough time to type them all out. Congratulations on all the attention you will soon be receiving.

    John U
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    May 03, 2012 | 03:58 PM

    Does Hollywood know how homophobic you are? It would serve you right if you movie suddenly got dropped.

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    Irrational arguments
    May 03, 2012 | 04:21 PM

    The following is a bogus argument:

    "I have a lot of gay friends" is the new " I have a lot of black friends".

    It is designed simply to marginalize someone you disagree with rather than deal with rational arguments (kudos to those who were rational).

    It is used by those who want to start any argument with the PRESUMPTION that their opponent is racist (or anti-gays). And when it turns out their target doesn't actually behave in a way that fits the presumption, the critics just write it off as being racist, etc, itself!

    Ultimately, it results in an attitude that the only way you can be non-racist or not anti-gays is to accept every single thing some people in those groups want, which is absurd.


    DaBigKahuna
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    Homophobia
    May 04, 2012 | 06:04 AM

    Sure your gay friends may call themselves a couple, but whats wrong with them getting married if they want to, they just want the right to do it. I might not want to exercise my right to vote or free speech, but I am glad I still have it. Let us call this what it truly is, "Religious homophobia."

    Dan
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    May 04, 2012 | 08:54 AM

    There's no need to legalize Mormon marriage. I have plenty of Mormon friends who are committed couples; some of them call themselves married, some don't, but their friends treat them as married. Anybody who doesn't like it just doesn't hang out with them.

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    Orson Scott Card Lies
    May 04, 2012 | 10:29 AM

    Every accredited medical, psychological and scientific institution in the United States agrees that homosexuality and heterosexuality are both normal, natural and unchangeable sexual orientations.

    The only people still arguing that Gays and Lesbians should be discriminated against are some fringe groups in the christian and muslim communities.

    Christopher Lance
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    Pure Religious Bunk
    May 04, 2012 | 10:59 AM

    To Mr Card;

    Using religion to validate your views and, by proxy, forcing them upon others, is not only the height of arrogance, but dangerous in the extreme. It twists the minds of impressionable youth, and in my view, should be considered a form of abuse or assault. Decisions like this need to be made using common sense, and facts, not dogma and fear.

    The main purpose in denying a married status to gay couples is so that ignorant people like YOU can punish or otherwise persecute individuals who's lifestyle conflicts with your misguided belief that it is wrong. I say misguided, because outside of Leviticus, there is no mention of homosexuality being wrong. It is the height of hypocrisy to take one small portion of a defunct piece of fiction and use that as the central point for your beliefs, without embracing the rest of the narrative as a whole. I don't think I need to instruct you on the many other atrocities that are put forth in Leviticus.

    Providing the same legal benefits that marriage offers to gay couples is the same thing as giving women the right to vote, or blacks the right to own land, or ending slavery. It comes down to a basic civil right of all PEOPLE.

    Code Monkey
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    Disappointed
    May 04, 2012 | 11:02 AM

    In high school I read several books from the Ender's Game series and considered them to be my favorite books for quite a long time, with Card being my favorite author.

    That being said, after reading this article (even as a heterosexual male) the absurdity of its content totally discredits the high opinion I once had of this author's intelligence and creative capacity. I am afraid that I would be ashamed to call you my favorite fiction author anymore.

    Gay marriage does not destroy traditional marriage values. In fact, it does just the opposite. It tells people that they can create a family with someone that they actually love instead of being forced to either marry someone they do not have true feelings for or stay single forever. The argument that they cannot biologically produce children and this type of relationship is unnatural sickens me. Have you thought that perhaps the world could use more couples willing to adopt the children that otherwise grow up in orphanages or foster homes? If even a small fraction of these children went to loving homes with homosexual parents you simply can't deny that their lives would be better off and that in fact, society would be better off.

    Sincerely,
    Used to be your biggest fan

    Isaac Maddox
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    Dead to me
    May 04, 2012 | 11:02 AM

    It's too bad when an author I like just goes off the deep end. I will definitely not be supporting this man in any of his endeavors.

    TheDirtyHippy
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    Bigot
    May 04, 2012 | 11:10 AM

    " I have plenty of gay friends who are committed couples; some of them call themselves married, some don't, but their friends treat them as married."

    The government doesn't. The government won't treat them as married when one of them is dying and the other's medical insurance will not be allowed to cover them.

    "I'm not making this up â€" it's already happening wherever the left has complete control of education."

    Feel free to post a source for this bullshit, please.

    Bob
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    Freedom of religion?
    May 04, 2012 | 11:19 AM

    Frankly, your stupidity is breathtaking, and I wonder how someone as bigoted as you doesn't get called out on it all the time.

    Allowing legal marriage for gay couples *in the law* has no influence or effect on religion in any way. You are free to believe whatever you want. Freedom of religion doesn't mean you get to dictate what other people do to maintain your freedom!

    Further, gay marriage promotes the stability of our society, which is good for everyone, even beyond the folks getting married.

    Your message is a message of hate, and you should be ashamed.

    Edgewood_Dirk
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    Good read
    May 04, 2012 | 11:25 AM

    If one thing is for certain, Orson is and always will be great at writing fiction. His recent works have seemed to become strangely homophobic. Does anyone know if they have been co-opted by someone with his authorization? I do enjoy the comedy parts in this about how facts exist about homosexuality being only a disfunction and then regurgitating old myths from the 60's.

    Neighbor
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    Some rational thought
    May 04, 2012 | 11:36 AM

    Homosexuality and bisexuality are proven phenomena in many animal species. It is not right to tell someone that the way they feel and act is wrong if it is natural to them and hurts no one else. Children will not suddenly be attracted to others of their gender simply because they find out about it. And what if a child is homosexual and learns that it is okay? GOOD. That is one less person being forced to live a lie for the benefit of their ignorant parents. Just because something makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean you have the right to tell other people what to do. For instance, I happen to think that organised religion is foolish and unnecessary. That doesn't mean I run up to every person I see wearing a cross and tell them that they are dumb. It's their choice. Maybe they like to be told how to find their spirituality. Their decision affects me in no way what so ever.

    Taylor R
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    Untruths in your argument
    May 04, 2012 | 11:40 AM

    Orson, you an author and writer that I respect. And I consider myself a moderate conservative. But you are completely off-base here.

    Just because "friends" see your loving, committed relationship as a marriage doesn't make it a marriage in the eyes of the state. Since when did your friends have the ability to confer tax and insurance benefits to couples, whether straight or gay?

    The truth is marriage is a legal status granted by the government. It confers many rights and privileges not afford to unmarried couples. My girlfriend (I am a male) and I do not have the same legal status as you and your wife, regardless of how impressed my friends are with how committed we are to each other.

    Please, Orson, do your research before you advocate for discrimination against individual citizens on the basis of a generalized paranoia of the "left."

    JP
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    Stupid people spew hateful messages
    May 04, 2012 | 11:41 AM

    Just because someone does not agree with your religious views does not mean they are attacking your religion.

    How about you use the bible as it was intended? A guide on how to be kind to others and a good person, instead of using it as an excuse to push your agenda of personal prejudices on others?

    "It's a vote for freedom of religion â€" the only right that is in serious danger in America today." Also, false. Our right to privacy is under the biggest threat that we face as Americans.

    "It doesn't have ANY effect on your lift. What do you care?! People try to talk about it like it's a social issue. Like when you see someone stand up on a talk show and say "How am I supposed to explain to my child that two men are gettinger married?" ... I dunno, it's your kid, you' tell 'em. Why is that anyone else's problem? Two guys are in LOVE but they can't get married because YOU don't want to talk to your child for' five minutes?" - Louis C.K.

    Voice of Reason
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    May 04, 2012 | 11:46 AM

    So your argument is that just because their friends view them as a committed couple, they can't be discriminated against on a legal basis. Shoddy logic.

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    Truly disappointing...
    May 04, 2012 | 11:50 AM

    Mr. Card was one of my favorite writers, until I read this article. I'm a little blown away.

    If you would like understand how gay marriage would affect the modern family, please watch this video. This kid has two moms. And guess what, not only is he normal, he is a better human being than 99% of the people I have ever met.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSQQK2Vuf9Q

    Mind blowing how ignorant and uninformed people can be....legalizing gay marriage is not an attack on the family. It is giving the same rights that you and I have as straight men, to men and women everywhere who have different tastes than us. How can you possibly have a problem with that? Attack on religion? You are out of your skull...

    Chris S
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    May 04, 2012 | 11:53 AM

    I've found that when someone starts a statement with "I'm not making this up" they are more often than not, in fact, making it up.

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    ignorance
    May 04, 2012 | 12:09 PM

    You were one of my favorite authors growing up.

    However, your religion clouds your mind in bigotry and discrimination. % of Same sex relationships are the same in the human race as in the vast majority of the animal kingdom. On top of that, it's amazing to me you not only believe in, but understand evolution, and yet you're still religious, Mormon, and posted this drivel.

    That's the 2nd tragedy here, besides your obvious homophobia. That your beliefs directly contradict the teachings of your church, yet you still proclaim yourself to be Mormon.

    Time to grow up Mr. Card.

    DDay
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    May 04, 2012 | 12:52 PM

    Gay couples won't be affected by this; its already illegal for them to marry in North Carolina. The collateral damage to straight couples will be immense. And you do a great disservice to your readers when your main argument is a slippery-slope fallacy.

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    Seriously
    May 04, 2012 | 12:53 PM

    "Once they legalize gay marriage, it will be the bludgeon they use to make sure that it becomes illegal to teach traditional values in the schools."

    Are you Nostradamus in that you can predict the future, or do your gay friends advise you that this is part of their nefarious plans?


    GT
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    Sad
    May 04, 2012 | 12:55 PM

    I really enjoyed your sci-fi books when I was growing up; I'm very disappointed to find out now that you are a bigoted, homophobic nut job. I won't be recommending your work anymore.

    Aaron
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