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In Emergency, Don't Call Durham 911


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Since my 911 call experience last week, I've been researching 911 protocols and practices. I've talked to several people high up in the chain of North Carolina 911 officials.

Before last week, I always thought that you called 911 and, if it was an emergency, they just sent someone right away.

I told one high-ranking 911 state official what had happened, and I said I felt they should have sent someone at the very beginning of the call.

"Who would you have liked them to send?" he asked me.

"Whoever can get there first," I said.

He said, "Well, there might be someone there with a gun. And EMS isn't armed so sending EMS could put them in harm's way."

I told him that they should dispatch someone immediately – both EMS and law enforcement if necessary – and have them on the way and then find out all the facts during the time it takes for help to arrive.

He told me that, in situations like mine, "when the phone goes dead," it often takes 30 minutes or more, because "check the welfare calls" such as that can take some time.

I said there's a difference between a line going dead and someone screaming no followed by a crashing sound and no response.

"That's not a check the welfare call," I told him.

I asked him where I could find the protocols for the state for when someone should be dispatched, and he told me that there are no state rules or guidelines on when an operator should dispatch help. To a large degree it is a judgement call of the 911 operator.

So it's up to the operator – who may or may not be good at his or her job.

My editor, John Hammer. knows a lot about this type of thing and, when I told him what happened, he said that, here in Guilford County, we have an excellent 911 system. He said that here they were very good about sending out help immediately. He also said that was largely due to the efforts of the former head of Emergency Services, Charlie Porter, who's well known in this county for being adamant about quick response times.

John Hammer said he knew of a 911 call in Greensboro where they had sent a large ladder truck to respond – even though it was a medical call and not a fire. He said he found out that the reason they sent the ladder truck was because it happened to be the closest vehicle to the call.

Now that's the way it should be done.

Call me crazy and untrained and uninformed in emergency procedures, but I think that in this county, and everywhere else, the first thing they should do in an emergency is send someone; and they should sort out all the other details while help is speeding toward the scene.

That's how I think it should be every time you have an emergency or a suspected emergency: They should send out help right away – before someone dies rather than after.

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    911 response
    November 08, 2012 | 08:46 AM

    Thank you for writing this article. We all believe that when we dial 911 a person will answer that call and ask a few short questions as to nature of the emergency - as they should. In your circumstance, speaking with your mother by phone in different areas of the state, realizing that "something" happened and you call 911 in her county (Durham/Orange???),not knowing what had happened, just that something had happened and send help immediately to your Mom. That 911 operator, whether Durham or Orange should have immediately sent the nearest, closest unit, whether police, fire or EMT to your mother's address. Once there, they can determin whether it's a fire, injury, robbery/home invasion or anything. There is a problem at that address and the closest anybody should respond within minutes. Once there, they can determine what other help is needed. Somebody Just GET THERE FAST.

    SandyC
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    Durham 911
    November 08, 2012 | 09:12 AM

    Do you know what the problem is with Durham 911? If you don't, why not? It's the same as what the problem is with a vast number of issues in Durham. But, if you don't know by now, you probably won't ever know. But maybe you do . . .

    William Shockley
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    November 08, 2012 | 12:32 PM

    I had to read over the article twice... what exactly did the 911 operator do wrong?

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    Efficiency
    November 08, 2012 | 01:54 PM

    Obviously, there are not enough resources for them to send both EMS and police to every 911 call, right away. The time those teams spend on usually pointless 'check the welfare' calls would result in deaths of people with real emergencies.

    Your situation was scary and unnerving, to be sure. But don't overgeneralize. The way you suggest they run things would require a much larger budget, and would be massively inefficient.

    Patrick
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    911
    November 08, 2012 | 02:08 PM

    Several years ago at UNC's Finley Golf Course in Chapel Hill( a few miles from UNC Hospital) a buddy went into shock after an insect bite. Took Orange County EMS 45 minutes to get there They got lost.
    The Durham operator may have been infuriating with her list of questions, but you could have avoided 911 altogether by calling your mom's neighbors. You do have their numbers, right?

    PhilipM
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    Durham Response to 911 Article
    November 08, 2012 | 04:44 PM

    The Durham 911 Center is dedicated to promoting, preserving, and protecting the safety and security of all residents and visitors in our community. It is our commitment to the fastest and most efficient response to emergency calls possible, while insuring the safety of police, fire, and E.M.S. personnel. With that said, I appreciate this concern being brought to my attention and the opportunity to answer any questions you may have about our service.
    I have investigated your concern that occurred on Tuesday, October 30, 2012, at 8:08 p.m. After listening to the recorded call, which I am happy to provide upon request, I noted that several assertions made in this column are not substantiated by the recorded call. Please note that the logging recorder and telephone software reporting systems produce unalterable records.
    It is normal in times of distress to not correctly remember the timeline for how things happened or specific details, which is why the recorded calls are important for placing issues into the proper context. For instance, it only took 10 seconds, or two rings, before the call was answered. Much of the back-and-forth conversation between the communications officer and the caller also did not occur as depicted in this column.
    The logging recorder also reveals that the caller was told to stay on the line while we transferred the call to Orange County. The call had already been routed to dispatch before this statement was made. We have a recording of this telephone call as well. This area of the county also requires the response of the Chapel Hill Fire Department, which necessitated contacting Orange County. The caller is also told several times that units are responding. Orange County advises Durham at 8:19 p.m. that they had made contact with the patient and she is okay and does not need any assistance. The Durham E.M.S. unit that was responding is subsequently cancelled.
    Unfortunately, calls that are transferred do not provide automatic location identification and it takes a few extra steps to determine the correct responding agencies by inputting the address manually. This call was routed to dispatch in one minute and 52 seconds from the time the phone call was received and before the caller was told to hang on while obtaining the Chapel Hill Fire Department from Orange County.
    I believe that we have some of the best communications officers working on behalf of this community and that we correctly followed our protocols during this call. Our rigorous training program has received the internationally recognized APCO Project 33 Certification from the Association of Public Safety Communications Officials International, Inc. (APCO). Additionally, our center is Emergency Medical Dispatch accredited by the National Academy of Emergency Medical Dispatch, and accredited by the Commission for Accreditation of Law Enforcement Agencies (CALEA). In fact, we were the first, and one of only two 911 centers in the world to hold these three accreditations simultaneously.
    Please do not hesitate to contact me directly at (919) 560-4191 or by email at James.Soukup@DurhamNC.gov if you wish to discuss this issue further.
    Sincerely,
    James Soukup
    Director, Durham Emergency Communications Center


    James Soukup
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